Inception was the biggest film release in a long time, and audiences and critics alike gushed over how original it was. It pioneered such innovative story mechanics as dream sharing, thought theft, psychological limbo and escaping the subconscious through specific triggers, or "kicks." Those are, no doubt brilliant devices. Devices that, to a one, can be traced back to Scrooge McDuck.
In a 2002 comic book, eight years before Christopher Nolan's little dream exploration film, Scrooge got his mind hijacked by the Beagle Boys. The Boys were trying out new careers as dream-thieves and went into Scrooge's mind to steal the secret combination of his vault. If this sounds vaguely familiar, it's because that's exactly how Inception opens up, except you have to replace DiCaprio with talking dogs. Which, incidentally, would probably improve every single one of his movies.
After they're inside Scrooge's mind, the Beagle Boys have trouble differentiating dreams from reality -- again, exactly like the characters from Inception, who need special items, or "totems" in order to tell dream from reality.
When Donald Duck enters Scrooge's dream to help, he has to figure out a way to pry the Beagle Boys out of there. In Inception they use "kicks" to make controlled exits, like how the feeling of falling usually snaps you out of the dream. In McDuck's head, they do, well, the exact same thing.
In order to escape danger, Scrooge starts jumping from dream to dream, but like Cillian Murphy's character, he can't remember the last dream once he's in the new one. Donald, however, is the invader (like DiCaprio) so he alone is able to remember the progression.
But Inception was a sci-fi thriller, and that was key to its appeal: It took metaphysical concepts, like Lucid Dreaming, and used them to fuel the action. The characters can't break the rules, but they can "imagine a bigger gun," and that's hardly something you'd see in some Disney duck carto-
Anyone who's really bad at pattern recognition might at this point be saying, but wait, there's Limbo! That, at least, is definitely the exclusive work of our favorite dark genius ... Gyro Gearloose.
These are all from the same issue of one 24-page comic book, by the way -- not some collection of random panels throughout the years that we've strung together to make a point. Then there's Mal, DiCaprio's wife who's being kept alive solely in his dreams. And yes, even that sad, emotionally complex motivation is echoed in this comic about pantsless waterfowl.
This is Goldie, Scrooge's old girlfriend. She may or may not be dead, but he certainly hasn't seen her in about 50 years. See, she's in the dreamworld because Scrooge carries a lot of guilt from the way he treated her when they were together (i.e., he kidnapped and tormented her. Yeah, Ducktales skipped over Scrooge's violent criminal phase.). Kind of like the guilt DiCaprio feels, believing that he killed his wife, whom he constantly visits in his dreams.
Nolan has never commented on the similarities between the two properties, probably because there isn't much he would be able to say besides, "Well ... fuck." He has mentioned that he isn't sure where the inspiration for the movie came from though, probably because "I owe it all to Donald Duck!" is kind of an embarrassing Oscar speech. Nolan "may not know" where he got his ideas from, but some directors sure do. Like ...
brucht halt es guets fundamaent zum was riesigs ufbaue. luschtiger findi das dae noelli immerno das liest.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 11:52
von Astroboy
Don Rosa forever in my heart.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 12:15
von zwirrlibatz
rächt krass guet.
btw ich han mini ganz bildig usem "schlaue buech" vo de jungs.
Tatsujin hat geschrieben:Han gar nöd gwüsst, dass si hüt na "gueti" [beliebiges einfügen] mached.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 14:44
von Acid
Es isch eh öpis vom Beschtä... ei Gschicht heds au geh, woner gmerkt hed, dass sin Geldspeicher zwenig Platz hed. Denn ischer zum Düsentrieb und de hed für ihn en Aparatus entwicklet, dass uf chlinem Rum meh Platz erschaffä wird, waser denn amene Huet vorzeigt hed, i de er immer meh und meh hed chönä inästeckä.
Er hed de Dagobert aber au gwart, dassmers nid übertriebä söll, wills suscht überlaschtet wird, und zämäkracht. Logischerwis heds de Dagobert unendlich übertribä, isch mitem Viermaschter uf sis Münzämehr go säglä, und sin Geldspeicher isch implodiert oder so...
Hed denn nid schlächt zur Finanzkrisä passt.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 15:20
von Avenger
Beagle Boys si d Panzerknacker. Wieder öppis glernt.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 15:36
von Tatsujin
ja es sind hundsmänner.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 16:24
von Avenger
Mini Achtig vor der Erika Fuchs wird immer grösser.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 18:07
von Sephi
Scrooge McCeption, mega! De Paprika chönnt sech dämfall ou grad bim Scrooge bedient ha Oder denn de Cepschn bi Paprika!
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 25 Feb 2011 20:47
von PlanetHarrieR
Interessant.
Hmja, so wiuwiue Abenteuer-Geschichten waren schon in den 80ern im lustigen Taschenbuch ziemlich cool, wenn ich mich zurück erinnere.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 27 Feb 2011 14:36
von zwirrlibatz
ja umbedingt! im Lustigen Taschenbuch wurden alle klassischen Abenteurgeschichten verentet.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 27 Feb 2011 23:23
von Supersonic
D'Recherche isch ja genial! En meeeega Artikel!
Und das de Scrooge isch sowieso uhuere super!!!
Aber das mitem Nolan und klaute Idee findi chli härt formuliert. Bzw. ich han eeeetlichi Idee dur Inspiratione vo Games, Comics und Film,
aber die alli kategorisiere wär unmöglich! Usserdem isches ebe scho möglich, dass bi Milliarde vo Lüüt uuf de Welt zwei Lüüt die gliiche
Idee hend. Das isch bestimmt nöd s'erst mal wo so was passiert. Aber wenns de Nolan tatsächlich klaut hett usem Büechli und nöd Maa
gnueg isch zum Credit geh ischs natürli huere dumm! Isch doch super wenn mer usere Dagobert Duck Gschicht sonen Film chan umdenke!
Supersonic hat geschrieben:D'Recherche isch ja genial! En meeeega Artikel!
Und das de Scrooge isch sowieso uhuere super!!!
Aber das mitem Nolan und klaute Idee findi chli härt formuliert. Bzw. ich han eeeetlichi Idee dur Inspiratione vo Games, Comics und Film,
aber die alli kategorisiere wär unmöglich! Usserdem isches ebe scho möglich, dass bi Milliarde vo Lüüt uuf de Welt zwei Lüüt die gliiche
Idee hend. Das isch bestimmt nöd s'erst mal wo so was passiert. Aber wenns de Nolan tatsächlich klaut hett usem Büechli und nöd Maa
gnueg isch zum Credit geh ischs natürli huere dumm! Isch doch super wenn mer usere Dagobert Duck Gschicht sonen Film chan umdenke!
Ja ehscho, die ganzi Traumgschicht isch ja au wo de Comic usecho isch nid neu gsi - id Tröim vo anderne Lüt inegoh, sech nützlechi Gägeständ ertröime etc. etc.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 28 Feb 2011 20:00
von O_O
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 28 Feb 2011 22:07
von geosnow
naja, komisch. er häts klaut/isch inspiriert worde. mis gfühl. zviel übereinstimmige.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 28 Feb 2011 22:13
von Avenger
Gheit er jetz um der Kreisel?
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 01 Mär 2011 02:09
von Tatsujin
en farklin' mind-roiber ischer.
Re: Dagobert > Inception
Verfasst: 10 Mär 2011 09:56
von der_blubb
Tatsujin hat geschrieben:en farklin' mind-roiber ischer.