Sucker Punch

[O_O]

ich han 0.

[Master(G)]

gluegt hanen! unfassbar super ischer!

[Guave]

Extended Cut isch 15min länger.
Noonig gluegt, weiss nid was anderscht isch.

[Master(G)]

18 minute sig er sogar länger.
es gitt meh kampfszene und en musical nummere.
staht so jedefalls ide fore.
ich hol mer directors cut bluray uf jede fall. sone geile film!

[h4xX0r]

gluegt hanen! unfassbar super ischer!

ich post öppis und nachher luegsch en nomal ok?

[Sylvara]

Er isch so unfassbar schlächt, es isch krass.
D'Lüt si scharewiis zum Chino usegloffe, nid zu unrächt. Heilige Scheisse.

lol!

ich säges mal eso: dä film isch optisch sehr stark. und das ischs denn grad gsii.

[Guave]

[Master(G)]

gluegt hanen! unfassbar super ischer!

ich post öppis und nachher luegsch en nomal ok?

ja mach!

[h4xX0r]

gluegt hanen! unfassbar super ischer!

ich post öppis und nachher luegsch en nomal ok?

ja mach!

First of all, let me state that I love the movie Sucker Punch. It is the most original movie put out by a mainstream Hollywood studio in years.

Last night after reading so many opinions on these boards I just had to go and see it again to look at it with fresh eyes.

The movie is so brilliant in its depiction of sexual abuse and trauma based personality fractures. I think the issue with the movie is that it defies all genre restraints. For instance, if you thought you were going into a straight up action movie and saw this dark fantasy you would be shocked. I think that is the point. If the movie was marketed as a dark fantasy and you saw these action scenes you would be surprised. I mean it is almost impossible to accurately market a movie this complex in a trailer or commercial. So as marketers you stick with what you know, its an action movie.

I also believe that this action movie aspect of the story is intentional and very interesting from a meta story point of view.

I believe that at the start of the movie when you see that it is a backdrop to a play and it goes into the movie we are watching Sweet Pea replay a healing therapy theater version of what really happened to her as a child. When she does this though she has to create another fractured personality of herself to pour her trauma into. The movie then is told from the point of view of her fractured personality. The fractured personality, Baby Doll, though does not know that she is in fact Sweet Pea.

This is reflected in the film when Sweet Pea and Baby Doll lock eyes. While it seems that the movie switches protagonists when we come out of the hammer strike of the lobotomy the first time and see Sweet Pea in the wig, this is not the case. I believe that Sweet Pea and Baby Doll are the same person.

But I believe that Sweet Pea is Baby Dolls "future self" persona in her head. Rocket is Baby Dolls sister. In Baby Dolls fractured head, she and her sister ran away and lived to become older. Remember when Rocket says, "We're already dead". She was talking literally.

In regards to Madame Gorski. I believe she represents females in authority positions at the time as well. In the films twisted take on that era though, even women in positions of power are still reminded about their place in the world. I feel that in the real world she knows that not only were many of these girls abused before they came to the hospital, some are still being abused in the hospital. Without proof and without the power to get anything done about it by the powers that be at the time, she resorts to helping the girls deal with the trauma.

She uses a type of Project Monarch trauma based mind control techniques to help the girls handle the trauma they endure. She uses the music and dance and plays to help them deal with it by removing themselves mentally from the horrors going on in reality. So for instance when you are going to be raped in real life in the hospital by Blue and his men, you imagine instead that you are a beautiful dancer that mesmerizes all the men like a stripper. You are in control of the men using the sexuality in the dream world, where in reality it is the exact opposite.

The first time we see Baby Doll dance, she is with Dr. Gorski. Some have speculated wrongly that this means that Gorski is having sex with Baby Doll. No, I feel that this is the first time that Gorski is teaching Baby Doll, how to do this technique of disassociation.

In the end, Gorski realizes that she is trapped here just like the girls. She is kind of an enabler because she doesn't call the cops sooner but I think its also a reflection of the times and seeing how several of the guards and orderlies are in on it, she cannot defeat the conspiracy. However, once she realizes just how far it has went when Blue has forged her signature to lobotomize a girl for this sick practice, he has gone so overboard AND she actually has a legal case with the forged signature as PROOF, she does the right thing and calls the cops.

Gorski programmed the Paradise scenario into Baby Doll to help her spirit/psyche go to a happy place - permanently - after the lobotomy. She is way to f#cked up to ever have a normal life and sadly this is the best thing to happen to her.

No one escapes except in their mind. Sweet Pea doesn't escape. She is Baby Doll.

About the action world sequences - and this is where I think Sucker Punch breaks new ground - Zack Snyder was including our own "theater therapy" into the meta text. Rather than watch a film about a young girl being raped by those evil men, we would rather see it as a "story". We cannot handle watching or dealing with these kind of situations so we have to disassociate from it by putting it into the framework of a "story" or "film". And we turn the real world horrors into manageable chunks of pop culture mashups in order to digest it while eating popcorn. He includes "our" collective pop culture consciousness as a layer of our own trauma based technique of dealing with it. Look back at every fairy tale ever told...Do we want to imagine the big bad wolf is really a sexual predator and the story of Red Riding Hood is a thinly veiled sex parable? No, we teach it to kids and they take it at face value...its a story about a wolf and a girl and grandma. These are just like many of the reviews out there. People were just not ready for this deep of a mindf#ck. I guess the slogan, "You will be unprepared" was right. Oh, and one more thing, Gorski is the Wise Man.

People reacted with venom to this film, but I believe that is has a lot to do with their own psycho sexual issues then anything else. People, fanboys in particular, have fueled this phony girl power movement for far too long. All the girl power does is take a mans view of women and repackage it to us as if the women are doing it on their own. Men are more then happy to generally accept this because the women of the girl ass-kick movies or comics are still super sexualized. It just sheds light on all the Lara Croft, Charlies Angels Bullsh!t that we've had shoved down our throats in the movies. Lets not even get started on video games and comic books. Zack Snyder merely shows us our own psycho sexual issues when it comes to these issues and clearly "we" are not ready to deal with them. Go to a comic convention to see the cosplay girls and then look at the men watching the girls to see what "we" really think of these "super" heroes...I guarantee you that you will remember the scene when all the orderlies are checking Baby Doll out when she comes back from being lobotomized at the end...that's what men do.

Anyway I hope you enjoyed this post. I am not claiming that I have it figured out, in fact I am waiting for others to tell me their interpretation so that I can finally wrap my mind around this flick.

[Guave]

gitz au e Kurzfassig?

[Mastler(P)]

gell, das haet ja titanmaessigi proportione. anderersiets, fuer mich, wie au bi ihm: meh.

[Moff]

super gsi de film, viel meh als de trailer verspricht, tuet mega guet em aug, em ohr und em hirn

[Moff]

bim durelese vo dem topic findis doch beachtenwert, dass mit de einzige usnahm vom häxxer niemert d'stärchene vo dem film entdeckt het, und zwar keine vo dene wonen schlecht findet, und was na viel viel tümmer isch, au keine vo dene wonen guet finde

[Moff]

zrugglehne und gnüsse